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version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 19 Sep 2015, 22:02

Version 17.1 is built using packages from Arch rollback machine on date 2015/08/25, and uses kernel 4.1.6

- No Systemd or libSystemd is present in ISO
- vdev has replaced udev
- peasywifi has replaced connman
- Geany has replaced emendo as standard texteditor
- Terminals taeni, st and termite
- apacman has replaced packer as AUR helper of choice
- Startup script has been optimized
- makesb has been optimized

There is major changes under the hood compared to 16.1 version so I expect some bugs to crop up.
I have more ideas I want to incorporate into alphaOS but after carefull deliberation I decided to
go with what I have now cause it's been a while since last release.

EFI version of ISO will soon be availible

Alphaos home on sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/alphaos ... rce=navbar

alphaos_17.1-20150919-x86_64.iso Download here
sha256sum

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da06be84319d2b6b46bf1b8e7205655e4550caba17bb5a620004f286d5498d9f


comments:

I recommend running with devel_17.sb loaded.
Download here
Also you might want linux_4.1.6_src.sb for kernel header files.
Download here

More packages from arch are now depending on systemd so you might
want to load systemd-dummy package if you want to avoid pulling in systemd
package. Download here

There is no browser included in ISO but if you want something to start with I offer:

midori
Download here

icecat
Download here

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Re: version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 20 Sep 2015, 19:04

Known issues and fixes to be applied

1. Taeni is working not so good with vte-ng
Wrong window closed, pasting in wrong window etc

*edit* I actually got the same behaviour on alphaos 16 so ignoring this

2. termite to small font as default
change in /etc/xdg/termite/config

3. peasywifi not working when devel_17.sb not loaded due to
missing gettext dependency.

To fix either load devel_17.sb or create a gettext dummy like

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 echo -e '#!/usr/bin/env bash \n echo "$@"' > /usr/bin/gettext
    chmod 755 /usr/bin/gettext


will move gettext from devel to iso for the long run

4. Wrong user and group permissions in extra_17.sb

5. Not exactly a bug but AUR packages seem to need gnupg now
to fix:
install gnupg and run pacman-key --init

perhaps solution is to add SKIPPGPCHECK=1 to makepkg.conf
to ignore pgp checks, we ignor it allready for pacman packages

6 control center network icon is for connman

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Re: version 17.1

Postby ncmprhnsbl » 21 Sep 2015, 07:52

hi scooby, nice job, good to see this project continue :)

installed to usb using 15 (grub4dos) then ran grub from 17.1
included dev, systemd-dummy, midori
some notes...
put on some weight...... ah, python ...ok
bootup slowish..
vdev takes a while ..
usb mouse failed ....seems its detected.. driver? yay for keybinds (touchpad worked on diffrent comp)
kernel:

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 1.259684] mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
....
   1.595430] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=c03e
   1.595435] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
   1.595437] usb 3-2: Product: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
   1.595439] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Logitech

....
 57.110109] hid-generic 0003:046D:C03E.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:12.0-2/input0

xorg:

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[   587.563] (II) config/udev: Adding input device (unnamed) (/dev/input/mice)
[   587.563] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   587.563] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.

conky starting with artifacts with nouveau and ati restart conky clears them up
troubles with ethernet connection, eth0 seems to be connected but no IP?
didnt have any luck with easypeasy....(haven't tested wifi yet)
ran dhcpcd in terminal ... now connected

user alpha /home/alpha has ownership set to 999:999

makesb worked np , made a xf86-input-wacom.sb (tablet not working though)

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Re: version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 21 Sep 2015, 13:57

ncmprhnsbl wrote:put on some weight...... ah, python ...ok

included all of linux-firmware for example
I am not like simargl ready to give a lot of time to reduce size

ncmprhnsbl wrote:bootup slowish..
vdev takes a while ..

Do you think it is much slower than with udev?

Thinking of making some static dev with vdev, should be feasible


ncmprhnsbl wrote:xorg:

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[   587.563] (II) config/udev: Adding input device (unnamed) (/dev/input/mice)
[   587.563] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   587.563] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.


I am not sure what happens here, could you investigate a bit more.
vdev itself is to be considered beta at this stage.
Do you think it is a vdev,libudev-compat problem missmatch with
evdev? It should be evdev that handles it right?

is it evdev that handles it with udev?

I will see if I can research it a bit more too.


ncmprhnsbl wrote:conky starting with artifacts with nouveau and ati restart conky clears them up

Is it a timing problem?


ncmprhnsbl wrote:troubles with ethernet connection, eth0 seems to be connected but no IP?
didnt have any luck with easypeasy....(haven't tested wifi yet)
ran dhcpcd in terminal ... now connected

Will test ethernet connection with peasywifi here


ncmprhnsbl wrote:user alpha /home/alpha has ownership set to 999:999

Yap, something happened here. when I checked my comp all of extra_17.sb seems to belong to
aurbuild:aurbuild
How this came to be I cannot say but will include in bugfix


ncmprhnsbl wrote:made a xf86-input-wacom.sb (tablet not working though)

Maybe you have to load any additional kernel modules at start?

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Re: version 17.1

Postby ncmprhnsbl » 21 Sep 2015, 23:45

yeah, had a look at vdev github issues in case... maybe somehow related https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/issues/52 not exactly tho

with udev, looks like evdev is used ....
from xorg using udev(systemd arch)

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   24.775] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse (/dev/input/event1)
[    24.775] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[    24.775] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse'
[    24.775] (**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: always reports core events
[    24.775] (**) evdev: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event1"


re: conky
timing problem? possibly .. i'll mess with .start and see what happens...

re: wacom
kernel module 'wacom' appears to be loaded... uses 'hid' as well
its a usb connection too...

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wacom                  73728  0
hid                   110592  3 wacom,hid_generic,usbhid


other stuff:
control center network icon is for connman

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Re: version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 22 Sep 2015, 18:51

ncmprhnsbl wrote:yeah, had a look at vdev github issues in case... maybe somehow related https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/issues/52 not exactly tho

The vdev in alpahOS is from 2015-09-05 and that would include the fixes for the issue you referenced above

If you have a github account you can open a new issue there. Be sure to say the date of vdev
and attach vdev log which are in /run/vdev and I believe a libudev-compat log in /tmp

I know Jude have brought in eventfs and are going to test it this weekend.
I don't know if that is gonna be a hard dependency
if so I have to figure out how it should be used.

I think after the weekend I can offer a bundle with latest vdev to see if it is solved there.

I hope you will help with this, it is important to get vdev up to par with udev.

ncmprhnsbl wrote:re: wacom
kernel module 'wacom' appears to be loaded... uses 'hid' as well
its a usb connection too...

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wacom                  73728  0
hid                   110592  3 wacom,hid_generic,usbhid


I am not sure I understand what you are doing, booting tablet via
a usb HDD??

So maybe there is some usb issue, huh?

I don't have any hardware to connect to usb except memory sticks, e-book
and my jolla phone and they all work with vdev


Thanks for testing


*EDIT*
For the USB mouse could you do a

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ls -l -R /dev/input/


could you also try to restart vdev with

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/etc/init.d/vdev restart


also those lines from Xorg.log

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[    97.834] (II) config/udev: Adding input device (unnamed) (/dev/input/mice)
[    97.834] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    97.834] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.


I have them too and I have no mouse but touchpad, I think these are irrelevant

Also I must ask to confirm, no old savefile loaded right?

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Re: version 17.1

Postby efgee » 22 Sep 2015, 21:58

The new release happened a few days ago.
How could I miss this?
Downloading now...

Good job Scooby :D

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Re: version 17.1

Postby ncmprhnsbl » 23 Sep 2015, 05:41

quick post (from 17.1) to say tried an old serial mouse which worked.. :)
so looks like usb input devices have a problem..
will post more detail later..
and right, no old savefiles..

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Re: version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 23 Sep 2015, 18:46

Hey man, I saw they got a USB mouse with cord for 5$ on sale in my country.
will buy that and see what kind of results I get

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Re: version 17.1

Postby Scooby » 23 Sep 2015, 18:49

efgee wrote:The new release happened a few days ago.
How could I miss this?


Glad to see you are still with us!

Some bugs have been found but it was important to get a version out there now.

Peasywifi is a couple of versions behind the one from PuppyLinux but
there is considerable job converting to alphaOS, will do so when dust settles.


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